Hi Pete: The main things to see at the moment are Wolf's first stable release and the roadmap. Beyond that, there are the site resources here (especially the wiki) which represent development from Frog's community tools. (In addition, see the myriad or methods of staying in touch with Wolf's development detailed on the Home page.)

Roadmap is working just fine.

Frog was good in it's old days, but it's kind a dead now for more then year and a half (at least). All core team from Frog moved to Wolf

It's finished and differs a lot from Frog. Current stable release is version 0.7.5 (0.8.0 should be out sometime in Autumn). Stable release is not buggy at all, at least I haven't had any problems with it so far (multiple sites).

As for docs and wiki, it's kind of work in progress as we changed few things and more will come soon I hope.

One stable coming right up...

Btw, welcome to the forum

Hey mvdkleijn, thanks for your reply

The broken link to the roadmap is in David's post above.

You say frog is dead in the water, but as I said, I found a lot of references to it on the web, while not to wolf I didn't mean to advertise frog, as I've just installed it and tested (which I hadn't done yet with wolf when I posted this). I noticed however that there are a lot of CMSes out there that are not well documented, and it might take a few days of trying it out before you really notice.

Just think about it: you write some really neat software and a lot of features are not used because of the unavailability of straight-forward and easy documentation. I know there is a lot of work behind what you do, and it takes a lot of time with the documentation... but I think it could benefit more ppl to have more documentation rather than features that very few will ever use.

I'm not saying frog is well documented, but as frog isn't developed there isn't much hope for that. I'm saying I hope wolf will be! For example I wanted to see how to make a plugin, and went to http://www.wolfcms.org/wiki/tutorial:plugin which doesn't mention there is an example like the ./wolf/plugins/skeleton directory.  Neither does it mention the Controller class, which I just assumed should be named CamelCased based on the plugin id (would be named camel_cased for the CamelCasedController). There was also a cheat-sheet for the plugin creation which I don't see on the documentation menu. I have not looked into it so much yet, but this was my first impression. Are there doc pages that are not displayed in the menu?

You have a demo of wolf displayed on the frontpage, but when I clicked the admin link I still couldn't get to neither a login screen or the admin panel at all. That's what I can say for now. Btw it was really easy to start my plugin now that I posted on the forum and got quick replies. I want to be tough in criticism because I think wolf has good potential.

- Robin

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There is a bug in the Wolf demo.

I do not see why anyone would choose Frog over Wolf. Wolf is a fork of the last release of Frog so it is definitely ahead of Frog in development.

Frog is not being developed any more, so you are not going to get any improvements, and no one is going to fix security problems.

If you find the documents are incomplete, ask on the forums. They are helpful, and I have got answers to every question I have asked.

That question is one I've been pondering since Wolf's launch. As we all appreciate, the line between spreading the word and spamming can be fairly fine. Even so, I've done what I can to flag it up on "best CMS" comment threads (if it's missed off the list), other forums (as appropriate), monitoring Twitter and sending replies, etc.

For example, we noticed quite a spike in interest when this list put Wolf at the top. We could do with more of those!

I suppose we could also benefit from some high-profile adopters and sites! Hopefully that will happen as the word filters out. It is in wider use than people probably appreciate, but for all that (as this thread illustrates), too often flies under the radar.

And maybe, given the continued misunderstandings about Wolf in relation to Frog, we should put some more "official" history of things on the front page of the wiki. (Those interested can see my personal version.)

Aww shucks...

I actually got emailed threats when I forked by the way, despite my explanation of the reasons.

Just thought I'd wake this slumbering thread to offer my thanks for & kudos to the WolfCMS project.  I maintain a simple 10 page site and have been looking for a small, simple & practical CMS for years.  Well, WolfCMS is almost perfect! ("almost", only because I didn't write it...;)

I've tried many a CMS, from the Drupal/Joomla/Wordpress -esque CMS's, to the small, simple, and plucky CMS's.  And while they all have their strengths and uses, none of them were suitable for my little project.

Then, last night, since it had been a while since I'd looked to see what was out there, I type "simple CMS" into Google.  Well, the forth result was a link to an article titled: "10 Simple and Light Weight CMS Solutions | Tools".  WolfCMS was the the first one discussed.  I read the synopsis provided, and just went from there.

Now, while I have just began to learn WolfCMS, I am looking forward it.

Thanks again!